- Created Saturday, August 22nd 2015 @ 04:20:16
Just curious if many players are still working and improving their bots with the finals coming in one month. Haven't seen many new submissions, only from a few players. Wondering if a lot of you guys are lurking around!
Will we see some new strategies before finals? Or do you think the game has mostly been figured out?
- Created Saturday, August 22nd 2015 @ 10:07:04
I think it will be no new strategies, only optimization. For example my code does not work now! It works partially. This is enough for testing :)
- Updated Saturday, August 22nd 2015 @ 12:47:58
Hehe, cheeser you are the biggest lurker. You challenge lots of other bots but don't make any updates! I bet you have something to surprise us
- Created Saturday, August 22nd 2015 @ 13:33:18
Yep. I think my next version will be a great success or great failure before the final :)))
- Updated Sunday, August 23rd 2015 @ 04:53:04
I believe the problem with this challenge is that it is lacking support from the WarLight community. I created two threads in the WarLight forums but they died pretty quickly. The first WarLight AI challenge was anounced very popularly on the WarLight site so many WarLight players got interested. Mainly due to the lack of (trash) talk I lost interest in updating my bot. Here on this site you can also discuss stuff but it's more about technical stuff. The coders here seem pretty introvert to me, no real discussion about strategies, how to solve some problems or about their bot architecture.
"Or do you think the game has mostly been figured out?"
Knowing how to play the game kinda properly on human level I see that the bots are still way to weak. Your question shouldn't be if the bots have figured out how to play this game but if they are playing at a level where the cost of making little improvements is starting to skyrocket. I know how overly simplistic my bot makes it's decisions and my bot is ranked at rank 3 currently without having been updated for quite a while now. Only GreenTea seems to have a little game understanding.
I see two possible reasons for people being unable to make any further major improvements:
1) Their bot architecture is to bad.
2) They don't know how to play better themselves. This is kinda the case with me and the AI Block Battle challenge. You can find a relatively formal WarLight strategy guide (written by myself) linked under my WarLight clan page: https://www.warlight.net/Clans/?ID=141
- Updated Sunday, August 23rd 2015 @ 14:17:50
Yeah I see what you're saying, the strategy is very very deep. Actually I think I fit into the first category of your point, my bot architecture is probably not good enough. I think it may be impossible for me to implement many of the ideas in the guide you posted.
But in any case I hope you come back and update your bot some more! We should make some more posts about strategy and trash talk to make things more interesting
- Created Tuesday, August 25th 2015 @ 13:05:27
I'm still working on my bot Anila8. In the nearly 3 weeks that we have left before the competition closes I will mainly focus on improving my strategy in the picking phase and the first few rounds, because that's usually where it goes wrong, if it goes wrong. This way I hope to improve my win ratio against GreenTea (currently around 40%), but not sure whether that will work out.
@Norman: your guide is impressive and useful. I found out many of your advices myself while carefully watching games against the other top bots, like GreenTea, LuckyBot and RealityBomb.